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Beer, Bourbon, and Bullets
April 6th, 2009 by admin

menbanjoOn February 12, 2009, Representative Kelsey introduced HB 0724.

The bill, if passed and signed, would allow people with conceal carry permits to maintian possession of the firearm in public parks, colleges, bars and restaurants.

This is not a tragedy waiting to happen, it already HAS happened.

March of last year, a former Sheriff deputy, visibly intoxicated, shot and killed one person and wounded another in the Windjammer restaurant in Memphis. The accused deputy is in pre-trial hearings now.

What world does Brian Kelsey live in?

If alcohol and driving don’t mix, certainly alcohol and firearms don’t! Further, if you are at a bar or restaurant, and are so uncomfortable that you feel you need to carry a firearm, wouldn’t the better response be to just leave the premises?

Contact Representative Kelsey and tell him that allowing guns in bars, not only makes no sense, but also makes all Tennesseans less safe.

Action Note:This bill is on the calendar for 4/8/09 in the Criminal Practice and Procedure Sub-committee of the House Judicial Committee. Email the members and let them know just how foolish this legislation is.


5 Responses  
Adrian Eddleman writes:
April 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

I’m afraid I must disagree regarding your take on Rep. Kelsey’s legislation being a waste of time. For one, criminals will heed no legislation banning firearms in state parks, colleges, restaurants, and especially not bars. It is a proven fact that the greatest deterrent against criminal activity is an armed citizenry. I for one as a law abiding citizen would feel much more comfortable with my kids and wife being armed if entering a secluded state park alone. As well, I would prefer my oldest daughter be able to arm herself walking back to the dorm late at night after class. It would be a shame if the only way law abiding citizens could protect themselves is illegally.

Regarding your take on Kelsey’s state income tax ban legislation, I think we (Americans/Tennesseans)pay more than enough in taxes now without representation. Why you’re so eager to pay more in taxes astounds me. If you’re so keen on giving your money away, why don’t you do your civic duty and send it to me. I’ll do something worthwhile with it like donate it to Kelsey’s next election campaign.

By the way, if you’re not brave enough to post my comments on your website, I’ll be forwarding them to Mike Slater so at least his listenership can hear a reasonable perspective.

admin writes:
April 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

Adrian,

We welcome your comments even though we disagree with them. Debate is one of the things that helped make our country great. You pose some interesting points that cannot all be dealt with in a comment, but we’ll try.

First, you’re right about “criminals”. They already have no respect for the law or our society and have made a choice to not abide by the rules. But is a bar (which was the focus of this post) the place to allow firearms? People go to bars to drink and socialize. I think we can both agree that drinking and firearms are a potentially deadly combination, just as drinking and driving is a potentially deadly combination. If a person, licensed or not, wants to shoot up a bar, they are going to. No potentially armed citizen is going to stop that from happening.

Second, there is actually a great deal of dissent as to whether an “armed citizenry” is indeed the greatest deterrent to criminal activity.

Third, if you and your family feel more comfortable carrying a firearm, and do so legally, there is no protest here. However, a concealed weapons permit is not a “magic bullet” that will truly protect you from crime.

As for the tax thing, we pay taxes with representation, unless you believe that your city, county, state and federal governments are not made up of people elected to represent you. They may not represent your personal views, but they are still responsible to you, the voter. Opposition to a constitutional amendment does not necessarily mean one is for the inverse of the amendment. The people have spoken, and income tax is not going to happen in Tennessee. Why waste $20,000 and a whole lot of time across two sessions of the legislature, not to mention the cost of placing it on the ballot to affirm what we already know?

Finally, unless comments are abusive, they will be published here. A terms of use document will be up later tonight detailing what is or is not allowed on the site.

Thanks for your comment.

Badger Beth Cravens writes:
April 7th, 2009 at 10:42 am

Retarded at best and irresponsible considering the recent shootings in New York by a licensed hand gun carrier. If this legislation passes I for one would like to see more stringent mental evaluations.

firearms writes:
October 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

The gun laws are sure getting crazy. Im glad I got my FFL a few years ago. I bet soon you wont be able to get one at all.

kkyudyfs writes:
October 25th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
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